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Re: Azioni contro TELE2 | Oggetto: Re: Azioni contro TELE2 inviato da paperofa su 7/12/2007 23:11:15
velapiano “MEDITATE, TUTTI I VARI OPERATORI SI MUOVERANNO PER BLOCCARE IL PEER2PEER!!!!!!!!!!!”
redhunter “La novità di queste settimane è stata l'implementazione di un nuovo sistema di filtraggio dei pacchetti p2p che di fatto rendono inefficaci l'offuscamento, in quanto bloccano in larga parte le connessioni p2p. Il primo ad utilizzare questo nuovo sistema è appunto Tele2 con i risultati e le conseguenze che ben conosciamo, ma ripeto altri operatori si aggiungeranno a breve... Tra queste c'è anche Tiscali e presto seguirà anche Infostrada. Ora c'è da notare che i primi sono Tele2 e Tiscali, i più piccoli, è quindi logico pensare che si sia deciso di mandarli in avanscoperta per verificare ciò che succederà nei prossimi giorni e nei prossimi mesi...” Velapiano “….ma voi sapete bene cosa state combinando con i filtri Cisco,…”
Purtroppo nessuna risposta ancora né da attivissimo né dallo studio legale…. Nel frattempo ho trovato una chicca ….amara, anzi amarissima
“http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/p ... per0900aecd8023500d.shtml Controlling P2P Traffic with Smart Policies Policies that may be seen as too restrictive carry the risk of subscriber alienation, but "smart policies" can be enabled by using the granular analysis and control capabilities offered by an advanced service control solution. Some examples might include: • Deprioritizing P2P during congestion periods • Throttling upstream traffic (file upload) while not limiting downstream traffic (file downloads) • Limiting P2P access during certain periods of the day or week (for example, business hours vs. weekends) • Limiting P2P traffic traversing expensive peering points or transits • Providing unrestricted subscription plans for an additional charge • Enforcing a P2P quota, which when depleted throttles back P2P traffic but does not affect other application traffic • Providing optional P2P "bandwidth on demand" for an additional charge Existing quality-of-service (QoS), queuing, and shaping mechanisms are insufficient to implement these "smart policies" because they do not provide the required level of control. Furthermore, because existing infrastructure cannot identify P2P traffic, it cannot isolate and control P2P applications and distinguish it from other applications such as Web browsing, VPN, and e-mail.”
HO POSTATO QUANTO SEGUE SU L SITO DI NADEO “Aloha Aloha...... :D Yes, no answer from Nadeo...... it seems strange because Nadeo risk a lower level of game buyers. About Cisco: a friend of mine knows that Tele2 is using Cisco filters...... Final result? the "smart policies of tele2, e.g. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/p ... per0900aecd8023500d.shtml Controlling P2P Traffic with Smart Policies Policies that may be seen as too restrictive carry the risk of subscriber alienation, but "smart policies" can be enabled by using the granular analysis and control capabilities offered by an advanced service control solution. Some examples might include: • Deprioritizing P2P during congestion periods • Throttling upstream traffic (file upload) while not limiting downstream traffic (file downloads) • Limiting P2P access during certain periods of the day or week (for example, business hours vs. weekends) • Limiting P2P traffic traversing expensive peering points or transits • Providing unrestricted subscription plans for an additional charge • Enforcing a P2P quota, which when depleted throttles back P2P traffic but does not affect other application traffic • Providing optional P2P "bandwidth on demand" for an additional charge Existing quality-of-service (QoS), queuing, and shaping mechanisms are insufficient to implement these "smart policies" because they do not provide the required level of control. Furthermore, because existing infrastructure cannot identify P2P traffic, it cannot isolate and control P2P applications and distinguish it from other applications such as Web browsing, VPN, and e-mail.
It would be very interesting to know if is true that is impossible "isolate and control P2P applications”; this is a question for Nadeo. Maybe these arent "smart policies" but shark policies. :x
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